110427.mp3
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今日のゲストは、スウェーデン出身の環境コンサルタント、ペオ・エクベリさんです。ペオさんと奥様の聡子さんがザンビアで始めたバナナペーパープロジェクトについてお話しをお聞きします。
今使っている紙が木から作られていることは知っていましたが、実際にどのような過程を経て紙になるのかについて調べて見たことはありませんでした。

■出演
・ペオ・エクベリ（Peo Ekberg）
　環境コンサルタント、OneWorld Network代表、One Planet Cafeアドバイザー

■聞き手
・青樹洋文

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番組 Transcript　
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That’s why we have to do, because look at the nuclear power station in Fukushima now. I didn’t think about the nuclear power before. Now, all of sudden, we start to think where our electricity come from, you know. Where is energy made? How is it made? So it is a same thing here. But I can almost prove you that, listeners, they keep Africa in their pockets, because ten yen coin, it is made from capper. And most of them are made from Zambia. So You have Zambia and Africa already in your pocket everyday, even though we don’t know it.

I believe like comfort is not a bad thing. I think everyone want to have comfort. Everyone loves to get it to for instance ROTENBURO, hot spring. Like this, everyone likes that. That is comfort. So everyone loves comfort and I think comfort is very important. But what we need from now on is comfort with responsibility. Just what you say like, where does this comfort come from. What is that made my life as it is now. I mean it is all part of the evolution. That is human being. But comfort with responsibility, that is very important.